Episode 5: Fr. Josh – Even Priests Grieve

People often expect priests to have all the answers. Fr. Josh is the first to tell you that's not how grief works.

In Episode 5 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, Fr. Josh joins us for an honest conversation about grief from both sides of the aisle—his own personal losses and what it's like to stand at the altar leading funeral services for people he knew, loved, and cared about.

We talk about the weight of walking with grieving families, the challenge of carrying your own grief while supporting others, and why no one—not even a priest—is immune to heartbreak. It's thoughtful, genuine, occasionally funny, and a reminder that healing isn't about having all the answers.

Because sometimes the best conversations happen when we admit we don't.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Fr. Josh's personal experiences with grief
• What it's like to lead funeral services for people you love
• Supporting others while carrying your own loss
• Faith, hope, and finding strength when life feels heavy
• Why it's okay to admit you don't have all the answers

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode speaks to you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could use a little hope—and maybe a laugh.

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Episode 7: Mindy Coe – From the Band Room to the Badge

Band director. Navy weapons instructor. State trooper. Police captain.

Most people would be happy with just one of those careers. Mindy Coe decided to collect them.

In Episode 7 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, Mindy joins us to share stories from a life spent serving others—often on the worst days of their lives. We talk about what it's like to be a first responder, how those experiences shape your perspective, and what resilience really looks like when you've witnessed heartbreak up close.

Along the way, there are plenty of laughs, a few surprises, and an honest conversation about the emotional weight that first responders carry long after the call is over.

Whether you've worked in public service, experienced loss, or simply appreciate hearing incredible life stories, this episode is one you won't want to miss.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Mindy's incredible journey through four very different careers
• What first responders learn from showing up on people's worst days
• The emotional toll of serving others
• Resilience, perspective, and finding purpose through difficult moments
• A few laughs proving that humor can survive even the hardest jobs

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If you enjoy the episode, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could use a little hope—and maybe a laugh.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 8: Christina Maulsby – Grieving the Life You Thought You'd Have

Sometimes grief isn't about losing someone you've loved. Sometimes it's grieving the future you thought was waiting for you.

In this deeply personal episode of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, Christina Maulsby shares the story of raising her two sons—one living with lifelong neurological disabilities caused by shaken baby syndrome and the other navigating life on the autism spectrum.

Together, we have an honest, unfiltered conversation about caregiving, resilience, the emotional weight of parenting children with special needs, and the very real "loss of future" that comes when life doesn't unfold the way you imagined. It's a conversation about adapting, finding purpose, and discovering hope in places you never expected.

It's emotional. It's inspiring. And, because this is our show, there are still a few moments of laughter along the way.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Christina's remarkable journey as a mother and caregiver
• The grief of letting go of the future you envisioned
• Raising children with complex needs
• Finding resilience in the face of life's unexpected challenges
• Why hope isn't about pretending everything is okay—it's about choosing to keep moving forward

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode resonates with you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could use a little hope—and maybe a laugh.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 10: Mark Kuhn – A Tennis Court, A Legacy, and the Power of Moving Forward

What does a Wimbledon-style grass tennis court built in the middle of an Iowa farm have to do with grief?

More than you might imagine.

In Episode 10 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by North Iowa farmer and former State Representative Mark Kuhn. Mark shares the remarkable story behind the world-famous grass tennis court he built on his family farm—and how, after the loss of his son to suicide, that same court became a living memorial to his son's life, legacy, and love of the game.

It's an honest conversation about unimaginable loss, healing, purpose, and choosing to keep moving forward even when life changes forever. Mark's story is heartbreaking, inspiring, and a powerful reminder that love can leave a legacy that reaches far beyond our own lives.

In this episode you'll hear:

• The incredible story behind Iowa's world-famous grass tennis court
• Mark's journey through the loss of his son
• Turning heartbreak into a lasting legacy
• Finding purpose and hope after tragedy
• What it means to keep moving forward while honoring the people we love

Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of suicide, grief, and loss.

If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide or needs immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline in the United States.

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode resonates with you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could use a little hope—and maybe a laugh.

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 Episode 11: Kelli Hill – Wait... We Accidentally Invited an Expert

This week, something unusual happened.

For the first time, Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised welcomes someone who's actually... qualified. And supervised.

Kelli Hill, a child clinical psychologist, joins us for a thoughtful, practical, and surprisingly hopeful conversation about helping children navigate death, loss, and grief. We talk about how kids understand loss at different ages, how to answer the questions adults often struggle with, and why honest conversations—rather than perfect ones—can make all the difference.

Whether you're a parent, grandparent, teacher, caregiver, or simply someone who wants to better support a grieving child, Kelli offers practical guidance that's easy to understand and grounded in real-world experience.

Don't worry... Rod and Chris still manage to ask a few questions only the unqualified would think of.

In this episode you'll hear:

• How children understand grief at different ages
• Practical ways to talk with kids about death and loss
• Common mistakes well-meaning adults make
• Creating safe, honest conversations during difficult times
• Expert advice... with just enough Rod & Chris mixed in

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode helps you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could benefit from this conversation.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 13: Madaline Barnes – We Did It Again... We Accidentally Booked Another Expert

It's happening more often than we'd like to admit... another guest who's actually qualified and supervised.

In Episode 13 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, therapist and neuroscientist Madaline Barnes joins us for a fascinating conversation about grief, mental health, and how our brains respond to loss. With a career path that began in statistics before leading her into therapy and grief counseling, Madaline brings a unique perspective that's both practical and deeply compassionate.

We talk about helping adolescents navigate grief, why everyone experiences loss differently, and how to recognize when grief may be developing into depression. It's an honest, approachable conversation that helps make sense of one of life's most confusing experiences.

Don't worry... Rod and Chris still manage to keep things from sounding like a college lecture.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Why grief looks different for everyone
• Helping adolescents process loss in healthy ways
• The difference between grief and depression
• What neuroscience can teach us about healing
• Practical insights for anyone supporting a grieving loved one

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode helps you better understand grief, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could benefit from the conversation.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 14: Sybil Soukup – The Healing Power of Pets

They greet us with wagging tails, unconditional love, and somehow always seem to know exactly when we need them most.

In Episode 14 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by Sybil Soukup, Executive Director of the Humane Society of North Iowa, for a heartfelt conversation about the unique bond between people and their pets.

Together, we explore how pets can help us navigate grief, why losing a beloved animal can be just as heartbreaking as any other loss, and even how animals themselves experience grief. It's a thoughtful, touching conversation filled with stories, laughter, and a reminder that healing sometimes comes with four legs and a wet nose.

Whether you've loved and lost a pet, are grieving someone special, or simply understand the comfort an animal can bring, this episode is sure to resonate.

In this episode you'll hear:

• How pets help us through grief and loss
• Why grieving a pet is real and valid
• Do animals grieve? What we've learned
• The incredible human-animal bond
• Stories that will make you smile—and maybe reach over to pet your dog or cat

Welcome to the club nobody asked to join.

If this episode touched your heart, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with a fellow animal lover or someone who could use a little hope—and maybe a smile.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 16: Trey Sandvig – When Home Isn't Safe

Home should be the safest place in the world. For far too many people, it isn't.

In Episode 15 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by Trey Sandvig, a Domestic Assault Advocate with ACCESS (Assault Care Center Extending Shelter & Support). Trey shares what it's really like to help survivors of domestic violence find safety, navigate the legal system, and take the first difficult steps toward a new beginning.

Leaving an abusive relationship isn't as simple as walking out the door. Fear, finances, children, housing, and countless other obstacles can make escaping feel impossible. Trey helps us understand those challenges while explaining how ACCESS provides advocacy, emergency shelter, crisis support, and hope for people who need it most.

This conversation is compassionate, eye-opening, and incredibly important. Whether you know someone who may be in an abusive relationship, work with people in crisis, or simply want to better understand what survivors face, this episode has the power to change how you see domestic violence.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Why leaving an abusive relationship is often the most dangerous time
• What a Domestic Assault Advocate does every day
• How ACCESS helps survivors find safety, shelter, and support
• What to expect when working through the court system
• How friends and family can recognize warning signs and offer meaningful support
• Why no one should have to face abuse alone

If you or someone you know needs help, ACCESS is available 24 hours a day.

Sexual Abuse Crisis Line: 1.800.203.3488
Domestic Violence Crisis Line: 1.855.983.4641
Shelter Services Crisis Line: 1.855.696.2980

If this conversation resonates with you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share this episode. You never know who may need these resources—or who may become the person someone turns to for help.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Episode 17: Scott Schell – Loss, Faith, and Answering the Call

Sometimes life leads you down a path you never expected.

In Episode 17 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by Scott Schell, whose journey took him from the business world to the pulpit. But long before becoming a pastor, Scott experienced heartbreaking loss as several of his close friends died during the AIDS epidemic—a time when fear, misunderstanding, and stigma often left people grieving in silence.

Scott shares how those losses shaped his faith, changed his perspective on compassion, and ultimately influenced his decision to answer God's call into ministry. We talk about grief, purpose, friendship, and what it means to simply be present for people when life falls apart.

This conversation is honest, thoughtful, and full of hope. Whether you've experienced loss yourself, wrestled with questions of faith, or wondered how difficult seasons can lead to unexpected purpose, Scott's story offers encouragement and perspective.

In this episode you'll hear:

• How Scott's career shifted from business to ministry
• What it was like losing several close friends during the AIDS epidemic
• How grief and loss strengthened his compassion for others
• The role faith played in navigating life's hardest moments
• Why simply showing up for someone can make all the difference
• How purpose can emerge from seasons of heartbreak

If this conversation resonates with you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share this episode with someone who could use a reminder that hope can still be found—even after tremendous loss.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 19: Jamie Locke – Funeral Etiquette, Expectations & The Stories You Never Hear

What should you wear to a funeral? Is there really a "right" way to behave? And what are some of the funniest, strangest, or most memorable requests funeral directors have ever received?

In Episode 19 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by funeral director Jamie Locke. Since Rod works alongside Jamie at the funeral home, we thought it was time to pull back the curtain on a profession that most people only see during one of the hardest days of their lives.

Jamie helps us separate fact from fiction when it comes to funeral etiquette. We talk about what families really appreciate, what guests often worry about unnecessarily, and why showing up is usually far more important than saying the perfect thing. Of course, no conversation with funeral directors would be complete without sharing a few of the funny, unexpected, and unforgettable moments that happen behind the scenes.

It's a conversation that's informative, heartfelt... and probably a lot funnier than you'd expect.

In this episode you'll hear:

• What you should (and shouldn't) wear to a funeral
• Common questions about funeral etiquette and behavior
• Why your presence matters more than finding the perfect words
• Funny and unusual requests funeral directors have actually received
• Behind-the-scenes stories from life inside a funeral home
• Why laughter often has a place, even during life's hardest moments

If this episode makes you laugh, teaches you something new, or helps make an uncomfortable topic a little less intimidating, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who appreciates honest conversations with a little humor mixed in.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 20: Dr. Sterling Laaveg – The Gift of Respite

What do you do when you've been caring for someone around the clock and you desperately need a break... but feel guilty for taking one?

That's where respite care comes in.

In Episode 20 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by Dr. Sterling Laaveg to talk about the life-changing impact of respite care. Drawing from his experience as a respite care volunteer in Arizona, Dr. Laaveg shares what it's like to spend time with patients who are nearing the end of life, giving their caregivers something they rarely allow themselves—time away.

For caregivers, stepping away can feel impossible. There are errands to run, sleep to catch up on, appointments to keep, or sometimes just the need to sit in silence for a little while. Dr. Laaveg reminds us that taking care of yourself isn't abandoning the person you love—it's what allows you to keep showing up for them.

This conversation shines a light on the quiet, compassionate work of respite volunteers and why caring for the caregiver is just as important as caring for the patient.

In this episode you'll hear:

• What respite care is and why it matters
• Dr. Laaveg's experiences volunteering with end-of-life patients in Arizona
• Why caregivers often struggle to give themselves permission to take a break
• How even a few hours of respite can make a lasting difference
• The emotional rewards of serving patients and their families
• Why no caregiver should have to carry the burden alone

If this episode encourages you, helps you better understand the challenges caregivers face, or inspires you to support someone in need, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share it with someone who could benefit from this conversation.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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What happens when someone you love is dying—but circumstances keep you from being there?

In Episode 22 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, we're joined by Kevi Niland, whose life and career took her to Washington, D.C., where she worked as a Reading Clerk on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.

But this conversation isn't about politics. It's about love, loss, and a goodbye that didn't happen the way Kevi imagined it would.

When Kevi's fiancé became seriously ill, his children moved him from Washington, D.C. to Arizona, where they lived. Suddenly, Kevi found herself separated from the person she loved during the final chapter of his life.

Kevi shares what it was like to grieve someone who was still alive but no longer physically beside her, and then to face his death without having been there at the end. We talk about the complicated emotions that come when decisions are outside your control, the things left unsaid, and how you begin moving forward when you didn't get the goodbye you wanted.

It's a powerful reminder that grief doesn't always come with closure—and sometimes there isn't a neat ending to the story.

In this episode you'll hear:

• Kevi's fascinating career as a Reading Clerk in the U.S. House of Representatives
• What happened when her fiancé became seriously ill
• The heartbreak of being separated from someone you love near the end of their life
• Grieving when circumstances and decisions are outside your control
• The complicated emotions surrounding a goodbye you didn't get to have
• How Kevi began navigating life after his death
• Why closure doesn't always look the way we expect it to
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Sometimes grief isn't only about losing someone. It's also about grieving the moments, conversations, and goodbyes you thought you would have.

If this conversation resonates with you, please follow the podcast, leave a rating and review, and share this episode. Someone else may be carrying a goodbye they never got to say.

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Music: "Sergio's Magic Dustbin" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Episode 23: Toni Plante – A Mother’s Story, Part 1

Some stories can’t—and shouldn’t—be squeezed into one episode.

In this rare two-part conversation, Toni Plante joins Rod & Chris to share the story of her 15-year-old daughter, her struggle with depression, and her death by suicide.

Toni talks openly about what their family experienced, the things she understands differently now, and the unimaginable process of figuring out how to keep living after losing a child. She shares how she found a way through the darkest days—not by leaving her daughter behind, but by carrying her story forward.

Today, Toni speaks openly about suicide and mental health, working to raise awareness, encourage conversation, and support research that may help other young people and their families.

This is a difficult conversation, but an important one. It’s also a conversation about love, survival, purpose, and what can happen when someone chooses to turn devastating loss into a reason to speak up.

In Part 1, you’ll hear:

• Toni’s story as a mother
• Her daughter’s struggle with depression
• The devastating reality of losing a child to suicide
• How Toni began navigating life after her daughter’s death
• Why she now shares their story publicly
• Her commitment to awareness, conversation, and research
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Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of depression, suicide, and the death of a child.

If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, call or text 988 in the U.S. to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

Part 2 continues Toni’s story in Episode 24.

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 Episode 25: Peggy Dunn – The Long Goodbye

What happens when the person you’ve loved for more than 50 years is still here—but life together begins to change?

Peggy Dunn joins Rod & Chris to share what happened when her husband of more than five decades was diagnosed with dementia, beginning a journey often described as the long goodbye.

Peggy talks honestly about watching someone you’ve built a lifetime with begin to change, stepping into the role of caregiver, and experiencing a kind of grief that doesn’t wait for death. It can begin with a diagnosis, a forgotten memory, a change in personality, or the realization that the life you planned together may no longer look the way you imagined.

It’s a conversation about dementia, caregiving, marriage, love, and anticipatory grief—grieving the losses that happen along the way while still loving and caring for the person who is right in front of you.

And after more than 50 years together, there are a lot of memories, a lot of love, and a lot to hold onto.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Peggy and her husband’s life together
• The dementia diagnosis that changed their lives
• What “the long goodbye” really means for a spouse
• Becoming a caregiver after decades as partners
• The grief that can begin long before someone is gone
• Finding a way forward when life doesn’t look the way you expected

Sometimes grief begins with goodbye.

Sometimes it begins long before.

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Episode 26: Scott Tepner – The Day He Died

Scott Tempner had a heart attack.

Then he died.

While lying on a table in the emergency room, Scott’s heart stopped. The medical team brought him back—and he lived to tell the story.

In Episode 26 of Rod & Chris: Unqualified and Unsupervised, Scott joins us to talk about what happened that day, what he remembers, and how coming that close to the end changed the way he looks at the life he still gets to live.

Because sometimes it takes losing everything—even for a few moments—to completely change what matters.

In this episode, you'll hear:

• What happened the day Scott suffered his heart attack
• What he remembers about dying in the ER
• What it was like waking up after being brought back
• How the experience changed his priorities
• Why he approaches life differently today

No experts. Just experience. And this week, one hell of a second chance.

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 Episode 28: Angela Myers – Love, Loss, and Life with ALS

What happens when the person you planned to grow old with is diagnosed with a disease that changes everything—and you're raising two young daughters while trying to hold your family together?

Angela Myers joins Rod & Chris to share her journey of caring for her husband as he battled Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS), also known as Lou Gehrig's disease, a progressive neurological disease that affects the nerve cells responsible for voluntary muscle movement.

Angela talks about the challenges of becoming a caregiver while still being a wife and mother, navigating the uncertainty of a devastating diagnosis, and trying to maintain some sense of normalcy for her two young daughters as their father's disease progressed.

It's a conversation about love, marriage, parenting, caregiving, and the kind of grief that begins long before someone is gone. The physical and emotional demands of caring for someone with ALS are enormous, but so is the challenge of helping children understand what's happening to someone they love.

And when her husband died, Angela faced another chapter—learning how to move forward while raising two daughters who were grieving their father.

Because sometimes being strong doesn't mean having it all together.

Sometimes it just means getting everyone through another day.

In this episode, you'll hear:

• Angela and her husband's journey through an ALS diagnosis
• Understanding Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis and how it changes everyday life
• Becoming a caregiver while still being a wife and mother
• Raising two young daughters while their father battled a terminal illness
• The emotional and physical challenges of caring for a spouse with ALS
• Experiencing anticipatory grief while caring for someone you love
• Helping children navigate the illness and eventual loss of a parent
• Finding a way forward as a widow and single parent

Sometimes grief begins with a diagnosis.

Sometimes the hardest part is trying to protect the people you love from a reality you can't change.

And sometimes moving forward means learning how to carry both the love and the loss.

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Episode 29: Mary Ingham – Breaking the Silence: Domestic Abuse Awareness, Part 1

What does it take to leave an abusive relationship? And why is it never as simple as telling someone to “just leave”?

October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and Rod & Chris are marking the occasion with a special two-part conversation featuring Mary Ingham from Crisis Intervention Service.

In Part 1, Mary joins us to talk about the realities of domestic abuse, the challenges survivors face, and the important work Crisis Intervention Service does to help individuals and families find safety, support, and a way forward.

Domestic abuse isn't always physical. It can involve emotional manipulation, financial control, intimidation, isolation, and fear. And for someone living in an abusive situation, leaving isn't always as simple—or as safe—as the rest of us might think.

It's a conversation about awareness, compassion, breaking the silence, and understanding that nobody deserves to live in fear.

And this time, we're doing more than talking about it.

As part of Domestic Violence Awareness Month, Chris is taking on a 50-mile cycling challenge to raise $5,000 for Crisis Intervention Service.

The goal? $100 for every mile.

Fifty miles. One mission. Helping people find a way out of dangerous situations and toward a safer future.

Whether you contribute $5, $50, or sponsor an entire mile, every donation helps support the mission.

Visit rodandchris.com and click the Fundraiser tab to learn more and donate.

In this episode, you'll hear:

• Meet Mary Ingham and learn about the work of Crisis Intervention Service
• Why October's Domestic Violence Awareness Month matters
• The different forms domestic abuse can take beyond physical violence
• Why leaving an abusive relationship can be incredibly complicated
• The barriers survivors face when seeking safety and support
• How Crisis Intervention Service helps individuals and families in crisis
• What friends, family, and communities can do to support survivors

Sometimes the hardest part isn't asking for help.

It's believing there's a way out.

And sometimes making a difference starts with something as simple as showing up, speaking out, or chipping in.

This is Part 1 of a special two-part conversation. Be sure to join us for Part 2 as we continue our discussion with Mary Ingham.

Content Warning
This episode includes discussion of domestic abuse, intimate partner violence, and trauma. Please listen with care.

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, confidential help is available through the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233), by texting START to 88788, or online at thehotline.org.

If you are in immediate danger, call 911.

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